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247. Automated Welfare – the Simple Violence of Complex Machines

  • Podcast episode
  • Apr 14, 2023
  • #PoliticalEconomy #Governance
Jathan Sadowski
@jathansadowski
(Host)
romey
@reaumie
(Guest)
saskia klaassen
@saskiaklaassen
(Guest)
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We go in-depth on an article that has not received the attention it is due: an investigation into an automated welfare fraud system in the Netherlands, which is based on unprecedent... Show More

We go in-depth on an article that has not received the attention it is due: an investigation into an automated welfare fraud system in the Netherlands, which is based on unprecedented access to the machine learning model, its training data, and operational handbooks. Through a deep analysis of the systems mechanics, this investigation goes beyond validating what we already know to be true about how such algorithms discriminate. It shows how these systems are complex and targeted in their discrimination, while also being simplistic and arbitrary in their decisions.Articles we discuss ••• Inside the Suspicion Machine https://www.wired.com/story/welfare-state-algorithms/ ••• Welfare surveillance system violates human rights, Dutch court rules https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/welfare-surveillance-system-violates-human-rights-dutch-court-rules Subscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (www.twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (www.twitter.com/braunestahl)

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Reijer Hendrikse @reijerhendrikse · Apr 17, 2023
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High praise from @jathansadowski and colleagues for @reaumie and @saskiaklaassen and their amazing investigation of Rotterdam's discriminating welfare tech on of my favorite podcasts. Well deserved!
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