Patrick van der Meijde, founder of BitKassa and co founder Arnhem Bitcoin City joins me to talk about his experience with co-founding one of the earliest Bitcoin ‘circular economy’ communities in 2014. 
- How he got started
- Taking payments pre-lightning
- Are there enough people spending?
- Resurgence in circular economies
- Adopting Bitcoin Arnhem City
Links:
-  X: @PatrickvdMeijde
- Site: adoptingbitcoinarnhem.com
- Site: arnhembitcoinstad.nl 
- Cofounder @BitKassaNL
- Cofounder Arnhem Bitcoin City @Bitcoinstad
- Youtube: 10 years of merchants accepting bitcoin in Arnhem  
Sponsors:
- Swan.com (code LIVERA)
- CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
- Mempool.space
Stephan Livera Links:
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Chapters/Timestamps:
- 00:00 - Introduction and Background
- 01:55 - Bitcoin Narratives in 2014
- 04:45 - Transaction Fees and Challenges
- 08:46 - Arnhem Bitcoin City and its Evolution
- 09:55 - Context of Arnhem City in the Netherlands
- 11:45 - Capital Gains Tax in the Netherlands
- 12:33 - Impact of AML Regulations
- 14:13 - Merchants Keeping Bitcoin
- 15:00 - Swan.com
- 16:14 - Mempool.space
- 17:11 - Coinkite.com
- 18:40 - Merchant Churn and Turnover
- 23:35 - Importance of Local Community
- 28:55 - Adopting Bitcoin Conference in Arnhem
- 31:32 - Transition to Lightning Network
- 35:45 - Success Rates of Lightning Network Payments
- 36:30 - Improvement of Lightning Network
- 37:53 - Conclusion and Event Details