Malcolm Harris (@bigmeaninternet) goes beyond the binary of 'green growth' vs. 'degrowth', so's to imagine how to "take advantage of the capitalist system's contradictions to kill it as soon as possible."
defector.com/growth-for-what-the-shaky-promise-of-green-capitalism/

The argument, as helpfully précised by a commenter

(turns out @DefectorMedia has a way active comments section, that's [professionally] interesting [to me])
defector.com/growth-for-what-the-shaky-promise-of-green-capitalism/?commentID=7a9b6256-86d5-4e95-800d...

Harris starts to untangle a knot that frustrates me about a common left-climate slogan, "Stopping climate change requires the end of capitalism"

Which is both true and unhelpful. It means we now have not 1x very big problem (climate) but 2x: bringing about the revolution as well

Adrienne Buller's 'The Value of a Whale: On the Illusions of Green Capitalism' gives many examples of how “green capital solutions are a deadly distraction from the urgent task of actually slowing… climate and ecological crises"
www.wired.com/story/the-value-of-a-whale-adrienne-buller-q-and-a/

...And she's entirely right that, "Looking at the scale and complexity required to coordinate the transition off of fossil fuels, it demands the capacity of the state."

And that trade unions & the labour movement are also crucial.

But yet that's not enough...

Because (unless you're a total anarcho-primitivist or spiritual doomer retreating to some island fastness to mourn) there is a ~ton of stuff to be built~ to make decarbonisation and energy transition happen.

And right now, states don't build turbines and batteries. Companies do.

Which is why I am... confused, I guess, by arguments that seek to insist that 'capitalism' cannot ever be any part of a solution. Given it's our starting condition.

Harris's "sell us the rope" pragmatism makes a ton more sense to me!🪢
defector.com/growth-for-what-the-shaky-promise-of-green-capitalism/

Admittedly I'm a bit of a pinko vs. Harris, so my personal line is mebbe less hanging impact investment fund managers when we hit net zero in 2050, and more fairly relaxed about a bit of profit-making by manufacturers of ground source heat pumps & public transit systems...