This week, Gillespie and Riley interview David Zahl about his forthcoming book, “Seculosity.”

Text: Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technology, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What to Do about It – by David Zahl 

Show Notes: 

- Biography

- Mockingbird Ministries

- King of Kong (2007)

- Moralistic Therapeutic Deism

- Beowulf - Sheamus Heaney

- Mockingbird NYC 2019

- Here We Still Stand 2019

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