Thread by Naomi Wu
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- Feb 18, 2023
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Ok I guess it's time to do this. Lets goooooo
"China is not PC, they're busy doing STEM"
This is, unmitigated bullshit and I say this as someone who has been through the entire Chinese education system- not just a few years as a child and the rest overseas.
"China is not PC, they're busy doing STEM"
This is, unmitigated bullshit and I say this as someone who has been through the entire Chinese education system- not just a few years as a child and the rest overseas.
Every country does some degree of ideological education it's how you get a reasonably cohesive society. What that ideology is, changes with the times- it has to. One year Black people were property- the next year they are real people. Your curriculum has to reflect that.
Likewise in China- one year we're supposed to snitch on our neighbors hiding bibles- the next year, "meh". Because countries and cultures change. China decriminalized homosexuality in 1997 and it was removed from a list of mental illnesses in 2001. Education has to reflect that.
Whatever ideological education you have and resent at the moment- I can assure you we have at least twice as much of it, just on different issues. That idea that abiding by accepted political doctrine is not a requirement in PRC schools, I don't even know if you are joking?
The "correct politics" are absolutely clear throughout the education process- and you must be smoking something absolutely incredible if you think Chinese students have more leeway to express "incorrect" beliefs than yours do.
"Oh but you don't get into all that gender stuff"
We absolutely do- we spend more time, enforcing government-mandated policies pertaining to gender in education than you do. It's just you like those policies- you're fine with PC when it's your politics that are "correct".
We absolutely do- we spend more time, enforcing government-mandated policies pertaining to gender in education than you do. It's just you like those policies- you're fine with PC when it's your politics that are "correct".
It's barely improved in decades:
www.sixthtone.com/news/1006882/china-limits-schools%2C-majors-that-can-refuse-women
www.sixthtone.com/news/1006882/china-limits-schools%2C-majors-that-can-refuse-women
"Oh but you don't have all that minority shit"
Oh my sweet summer child. The PRC was founded on dealing with that "minority shit" and trying to find a way to keep every province and ethnic group working together and not at each other's throats. It is a HUGE part of our education.
Oh my sweet summer child. The PRC was founded on dealing with that "minority shit" and trying to find a way to keep every province and ethnic group working together and not at each other's throats. It is a HUGE part of our education.
Now I would not say we were successful- tons of issues there and like the US the letter of the law rarely matches the reality, but the concept of diversity and the inclusion of those not like us- as taught to children, is absolutely a constant part of our daily education.
"Yeah well they should just focus on STEM subjects not all that other stuff"
I work with Chinese and US engineers fairly often. One thing I've noticed is "1 US engineer can outwork 1 Chinese engineer, but 3 Chinese engineers outwork 3 US engineers". You suck at teamwork.
I work with Chinese and US engineers fairly often. One thing I've noticed is "1 US engineer can outwork 1 Chinese engineer, but 3 Chinese engineers outwork 3 US engineers". You suck at teamwork.
Even though we have serious internal divisions- far more serious than most non-Chinese realize, we have an almost unrivaled capability for teamwork. Know what makes teamwork hard? Team members who want to hate crime you or who fundamentally don't respect who you are.
However much time you are spending on teaching kids to get along with fellow Americans who aren't like them is *less* time than we spend on the same.
Kids are assholes, kids pick on the weak, the different, if you don't educate them they grow up into big unproductive assholes.
Kids are assholes, kids pick on the weak, the different, if you don't educate them they grow up into big unproductive assholes.
Whatever advantages you feel Chinese have in education is primarily one thing:
Far greater parental involvement. If you aren't sitting down to do homework with your kids every night or doing without vacations and cars so you can get them tutoring STFU and fix that first.
Far greater parental involvement. If you aren't sitting down to do homework with your kids every night or doing without vacations and cars so you can get them tutoring STFU and fix that first.
Take the school you think is "failing" your kids because of the "woke" education. Are the Asian kids failing? I bet not- because their parents have their back and didn't buy a new pickup truck with the tutoring money. So it's not the fault of "woke" or "PC" education now is it?
If you want to talk about Chinese minority issues, learn some background first, then come back:
www.duihuahrjournal.org/2019/09/two-restraints-one-leniency-part-i.html
www.duihuahrjournal.org/2019/09/two-restraints-one-leniency-part-ii.html
Yes- anti-Blackness is a big problem, yes, many teachers here try to work on that also, we've got a long way to go also.
www.duihuahrjournal.org/2019/09/two-restraints-one-leniency-part-i.html
www.duihuahrjournal.org/2019/09/two-restraints-one-leniency-part-ii.html
Yes- anti-Blackness is a big problem, yes, many teachers here try to work on that also, we've got a long way to go also.
